3rd Party Structure Repair Tools

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Douglas Cryer

2017-02-07 15:50:43 UTC

Hi folks,

Are there any 3rd party structure repair tools for 4D v15?

I had a situation today where the database crashed when writing a method and now when I open the design environment the methods start opening and the database crashes.

No way to open the design environment AT ALL. I have tried:
Opening from Mac client, windows client mac/win standalone.
Repairing structure (which comes up and says OK)
Compacting structure (also OK)
All of the above on different machines.
I am going back to my backup but it worries me that this could happen and that there is no way to get in. Also is there some underlying issue that I cannot know about because 4D says the structure is fine?

I have experienced issues like this a long time back and I was able to go back to my backup and then export bits of code that I had been working on with insider. Now I guess I have to take more regular backups during the development day?

Regards, Dougie
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Charles Miller

2017-02-07 16:28:24 UTC

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No longer data check and structure check are no more I know there was a beta of an upgrade but as far as I know never completed
Regards
Chuck

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Post by Douglas Cryer
Hi folks,
Are there any 3rd party structure repair tools for 4D v15?
I had a situation today where the database crashed when writing a method and now when I open the design environment the methods start opening and the database crashes.
Opening from Mac client, windows client mac/win standalone.
Repairing structure (which comes up and says OK)
Compacting structure (also OK)
All of the above on different machines.
I am going back to my backup but it worries me that this could happen and that there is no way to get in. Also is there some underlying issue that I cannot know about because 4D says the structure is fine?
I have experienced issues like this a long time back and I was able to go back to my backup and then export bits of code that I had been working on with insider. Now I guess I have to take more regular backups during the development day?
Regards, Dougie
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Phone : 01234 761759 Mobile : 07973 675 218
2nd Floor Broadway House, 4-6 The Broadway, Bedford MK40 2TE
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Koen Van Hooreweghe

2017-02-07 16:33:18 UTC

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Hi Doug,

Have you tried to hold the alt key when opening the database or when going to design environment.
In standalone you will get the 'You pressed the "Option" key' dialog, just click Continue, but keep pressing the alt key. The design environment should not open any left open method windows.

HTH
Koen

Post by Douglas Cryer
I had a situation today where the database crashed when writing a method and now when I open the design environment the methods start opening and the database crashes.

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Koen Van Hooreweghe

2017-02-07 17:03:42 UTC

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Hi Doug,

One more thing...

If one of your methods is damaged (causes 4D crash), the Explorer could also crash when trying to display the method code preview.
Yet again the option key comes to rescue. If holding that key and selecting a method, the Explorer will not redraw the preview pane. This works at least from v6 up to v15.
But I just noticed this key combo does not work any more in v16 But then again, its obsolete as v16 won't crash at all, neither damage anything... ;-)

There is also the little grey triangle on the bottom to hide the preview pane. I guess this might work too.

HTH
Koen

Post by Koen Van Hooreweghe
Have you tried to hold the alt key when opening the database or when going to design environment.
In standalone you will get the 'You pressed the "Option" key' dialog, just click Continue, but keep pressing the alt key. The design environment should not open any left open method windows.

Keisuke Miyako

2017-02-07 21:11:57 UTC

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rather than going to Design the normal way,
you could open the DB directly with the MSC.

Post by Douglas Cryer
I had a situation today where the database crashed when writing a method and now when I open the design environment the methods start opening and the database crashes.